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Post by Tim C on Feb 1, 2007 14:27:29 GMT
I have thought about this long and hard now, It has been weeks since I put brush to miniature and I cannot see me wishing to do so again as all enjoyment for painting miniatures for me has left me. So I am going to quit the painting hobby.
I will paint the Orks for the CiN project but they will be the last minis that I do paint.
I will still be active on the forums here and on other sites but as for the actual painting of miniatures I have done all that I intend to do.
As soon as I can get everything that I have catalogued I am going to put all my unpainted stuff on e-bay and see what i can get for a collection of stuff that spans almost 30 years.
I have tried to force myself into painting again but it just isn't working. I would like to thank everyone that has ever commented on pieces that I have done your comments and feedback were always very welcome.
Keep putting your works up here and don't let my sombre mood put you off your hobby.
Cheers all.
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Post by razhburz on Feb 1, 2007 15:08:34 GMT
its sad to to see you leave the painting hobby, mate.  You have always been a great source of inspiration and a great mate( Which i hope you will continue to be  ). to me but I can understand your decision, everything has it's time. It will be an honour for me to have some of my minis in the same army as you Take care, Razh |
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Post by mutantpotato on Feb 1, 2007 15:32:39 GMT
Wow, I can't belive it  Are you just quitting the hobby? It is sad to see you quit painting. Your minis, especialy your orks have been a big source of inspiration for me, and I will really miss your minis, especially the orks. And you had such skill and talent, I think it's a shame to just abandon all that  |
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Post by suladan on Feb 1, 2007 15:51:37 GMT
Noooooo dont do it, dont give up mate you got talent and shed loads of it. I wont let you  |
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Post by matty1001 on Feb 1, 2007 16:08:13 GMT
Thats a shame really, you have been a great inspiration over the past month when i have been working on metallics. If i were you i wouldn't sell paints and brushs, just keep them incase one day you decide you want to paint a certain figure. |
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Post by razhburz on Feb 1, 2007 16:22:52 GMT
If i were you i wouldn't sell paints and brushs, just keep them incase one day you decide you want to paint a certain figure. I agrr, keep you paints and brushes. "keep the secret. Keep them safe" |
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Post by charley1968 on Feb 1, 2007 19:45:03 GMT
Tim, respect for your decision and all that, but don't you think a break will suffice?Don't touch a brush for a year and see if you get back into the swing. As for selling your gear: go for it. Everyone needs money and i can imagine you got hundreds of £ of white metall home. Plus that unpainted metall has a tendency to exert an amount of pressure you don't need right now. I sincerely do hope you will miss the taste of acrylics so that you'll be back!See you round on the forums, Tim.  |
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Post by menace on Feb 1, 2007 22:21:58 GMT
It's a tough time when the desire has gone, for me in painting i can become so pessimistic that it affects every aspect of my life, but it is my life, my profession, my hobby. I have to wait for it to pass, and my experience of these times is the only thing that can get me through to the time when i know the desire will return. Painting, minis or masterpieces, drains an amount of creativity every moment you're engaged, if over used the well runs dry, the desire is lost..... the well needs refilled, Inspired.... and i find the best inspiration comes from something completely different!! and only after a certain amount of time (3-6 months seems to be my average) my advice, for what it's worth.... Don't sell anything unless you need the money, not for a good 6-9 months. Pack it all up and put it away out of sight. Take a break from all things mini, Orcs 'n all, you have plenty of time and if you need a longer break i'll cover your load. Stay clear of mini sites, including here for an initial break, we'll still be here when you get back Don't push anything! Finally, you were the first 'great' painter i got to know and it has been a privilege. You're work has inspired many and in that lies your legacy, you may be a away a wee while but the appreciation is all around. |
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Post by ritual on Feb 1, 2007 23:05:47 GMT
Hi Tim!
I'm sorry to hear about your decision! I do understand how you feel, though, as I have felt the same myself at times. I have, however, always got the lust for painting back again at some point. But, of course, that's nothing you can count on. I would hate to see you sell off all your stuff and then get your painting urge back again, but, it's your call! I assume you have thought a lot about this.
Whatever you do, I wish you good luck!
Anders
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Post by Tim C on Feb 2, 2007 14:08:15 GMT
Hi all thanks for the replies, I think a little more explanation may be in-order here. I have been struggling with my eyesight now for some time. I have had eye tests and every time I go I get told that there is nothing wrong with my eyes, but when it comes to painting minis I cannot see well enough what I am doing, this has a double edged effect one the one hand minis eye paint are getting slowly worse each time believe me, for every one that I manage to do a good job of there are about 7 or 8 that end up being dumped because of poor quality paintwork. Secondly there is an effect that takes away confidence when you know you are making more poor jobs than average to good ones.
That said I have yet another eye test on Monday and I will see it there is any differing of opinion.
I might add that my wife is also with you on this today is my Wedding Anniversary and I got a new paintstation for one of my gifts.
Thanks for your support and understanding. I will of course still be active on here I can still look at painted minis even if I cannot paint them myself very well at the moment.
Anders nice to see you here again mate.
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Post by jabberwocky on Feb 2, 2007 16:44:58 GMT
Sorry to hear you are having a tough time with your painting as of late. I would echo the calls to just take a break and not give up the brush completely (although admittedly for somewhat selfish reasons--your work with metallics is some of the best in the world and I reference them frequently as I attempt to duplicate them ;D). I hope your next eye visit goes well. Have you tried magnifiers of some sort? It would take some retraining of your eyes and painting process with them, but might be a work around to the problem. Dennis's ideas for taking a break are spot on. I'll keep you in my thoughts, Tim--I wish for whatever makes you happiest in the end; any hobby really should be a source of happiness and not one of aggravation.
Sean
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Post by jamessequeira on Feb 2, 2007 22:57:26 GMT
Dont force yourself it is after all a hobby, and something to enjoy and be passionate about.
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Post by mminiatures on Feb 3, 2007 1:12:26 GMT
Tim--I'm really sorry about this, but I would just echo what others have said, though I respect that your mind is probably already made up. You have a hell of a talent, and are truly one of the best I've ever seen. Where your eyes are concerned, I have some eye problems myself but for long distance, so I can only imagine how tough it must be to have that blur on the mini your painting. That sucks, man.
Nevertheless I would really suggest that you keep some paints around, give it a year or two and I'd be surprised if you don't have the urge to paint again. I know that I sometimes get so fed up with minis that I put them aside, maybe forever this time, but something drives me back to it eventually. This hobby sinks it claws in deep--I'd be surprised if its really let you go yet. Of course do what makes you happy, I'm just saying that by all means selling minis and brushes is a fine idea, take a break, but keep an open mind and see if after some time off you don't want to give it another shot.
Whatever your decision good luck mate.
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Post by tadme48 on Feb 3, 2007 2:26:30 GMT
Hello Tim,
I completly understand your decision my eye sight started to go 6 years ago. I struggled on for a little while and then gave up. I ended up packing everything away and started on my slippers and pipe phase and then ploghing my whole time into my work carrer.
What brought me back was 3 heart attacks and cancer as I got a load of tim eon my hands and didn't know what to do with myself, I am so glad I did not get rid of everything because it brought a new enthusiasm back to me and a joy.
My eyes are still bad but that is what glasses are for.
Whatever you end up doing good luck
Tim M
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Post by racssirt on Feb 3, 2007 9:02:07 GMT
Those bloody optitions don't know what they're on about obviously! It's still easy to paint with glasses, I've never done it any other way, having to wear glasses since I was 6 and all. Explain your problem in the full detail you have here and it might make them think a bit! Other than that, I don't know what you can do, 'cause there is definitely a problem with your eyes and I refuse to let that stop you painting!
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Post by ritual on Feb 3, 2007 16:15:07 GMT
I don't know wether or not you use glasses normally, but I do and have done so since I was 7 years old. I am nearsighted, but these last few years I've begun having a more complex situation where I need to take off my glasses to see properly at very close distances. This is something that comes with age (for most people, regardless of any other sight problems) and it can start already in your late 20s. Have you talked about this with your optician? The answer could be using reading glasses or something. I don't know, but just thought I'd mention it.
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Post by Tim C on Feb 3, 2007 16:58:59 GMT
Thanks again for the support guys, tadme48 after reading your brief overview it makes mine seem a bit trivial I am glad you are back into the hobby and find pleasure in it.
I have never worn glasses I have never needed to but that obviously is not the case now, I have discussed this with my opticians at work and they have told me that they can see nothing wrong with my eyes at close up, however they are not looking for me to see small and fine detail in miniatures as that is not part of my work.
That is why I am going to an outside optician to discuss this with them and see if they can test me for this and see whether I would benefit from some sort of optical aid.
My appointment is for Monday afternoon, if I get a result then leaving the hobby may not be necessary afterall. Time will tell.
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Post by racssirt on Feb 3, 2007 17:01:13 GMT
Fingers crossed mate! I couldn't bear the thought of not seeing your minis again! |
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Post by razhburz on Feb 3, 2007 17:15:36 GMT
Yeah fingers crossed!
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Post by mutantpotato on Feb 3, 2007 21:12:46 GMT
Hope you will find a solution to your eyesight problem. I have a similiar problem. If I work with minis for too long (about 2 hours and more), it gets harder to concentrate and it takes longer time to focus on what your are doing. It's like looking through a pair of binoculars, you have to take time to focus. It's not a big problem as I can just take a brake and then do some more mini work an hour or so later. But I'm afraid if I don't do anything about it I damage my eyesight and it just get worse. So I will make an appointment with some specialists, but I have checked my eyesight before and it was nothing wrong with it  |
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Post by hinton on Feb 4, 2007 10:23:00 GMT
Tim,
Sorry to hear that you're leaving the hobby, especially because of eyesight. I know I haven't been here long (haven't even been in the hobby for very long), but your work is some of the best I've seen.
While taking a break, even if it's for a year, maybe more, could be good for you, it's still your choice to quit for good.
If you do quit, it's good to know that you'll still frequent the forums and I guess we can always look at it this way: we'll still have an outstanding painter who can lend their insight and their experience to us all.
All the best, Tim.
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Post by bruenor on Feb 5, 2007 9:28:00 GMT
Mate, sorry to hear about the trouble you're having with your vision, I wouldn't suggest just packing it all in until you've seen the specialist, I too have a problem with mu eyes, but it's a focusing problem, my eyes taking longer to focus, when looking at something like a mini, then looking up at something normal.
It's something I've always had, and although I was prescribed some weak glasses, it didn't help.
Have you thought about using one of those HObby Helps, the ones with the tweezer like grips to hold minis , and a magnifing glass to help see the small details.
There are quite a few about, in place like Hobbycraft, and on Ebay, I guess they are used by watchmakers that sort of thing, where the parts are tiny.
Hope everything works out fine for you, I'd hate to see you pack up, sell up , and then wish you hadn't.
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Post by Tim C on Feb 5, 2007 15:31:31 GMT
Thanks once again for all your support, I had my eye test today and at last I found an optician that understands my problem and if the glasses that I have been prescribed are as good as they appear to be in the test then I should be back firing on all cylinders once more.
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Post by razhburz on Feb 5, 2007 16:05:08 GMT
Thats great news.  I really hope the glasses are as good as they should. |
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Post by racssirt on Feb 5, 2007 17:13:26 GMT
Excellent!! Look forward to seeing your minis again mate! |
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