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Post by rlangner on Jun 23, 2006 19:26:11 GMT
Hey guys, I'm supposed to start giving painting lessons for my store and I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how to break up the lessons and what belongs where. I was hoping to break it into four groups, New, Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced. Some things are pretty obvious as to where they should be. Here's sort of the break down of what I'm thinking right now. (I may change the names of the categories its just the only thing I could come up with right now).
New: - Priming and why it's important - Basecoating and how it's different than priming - Watering down your paints (lots of thin layers is better than one thick layer) - Drybrushing for highlights
Beginner: - Inks and Washes for definition/shading - Basic Colour theory (complimentary colours, and oposites) - Painting metals (basecoats, inks)
Intermediate: - Layering ("Triad" systems) - Inks and washes for tones - Highlighting metals - Painting Flesh/Faces
Advanced - Blending/feathering (complex highlighting systems) - Advanced colour theory - Lighting effects - NMM (I can't do it so I dont think I can teach it but for the sake of including it here it is)
These are just the painting workshops, I'm also going to be doing basing and building workshops too, but I figure since painting is the most complex and expansive one I'd get started on it first. Any advice or tips would be great, thanks guys.
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Post by Tim C on Jun 23, 2006 19:41:22 GMT
Looks like you have a well structured set of lessons for all levels, you might want to add something one blacklining and also back shading but I think you have covered most of everything and they should be valuable to any of the hobbyist you teach. How about adding basing as well as that causes alot of people to have headaches,
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Post by rlangner on Jun 23, 2006 19:48:27 GMT
I mentioned at the end of my post that I'll also be doing a basing and building/converting lesson/workshop as well (at the same time, it'll basically be an everything you need at once thing). I already have basing figured out so I didnt think I needed to mention it... Then again painting your bases is important so maybe I'll include that somewhere... Could you clarify black shading? Do you just mean shading down with black? or painting black itself?
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Post by Tim C on Jun 23, 2006 19:57:01 GMT
Back shading is the reverse of highlighting colours like red can only be taken so far convincingly so if you go backwards with increasingly darker shades into the recesses you have back shading.
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Post by rlangner on Jun 23, 2006 20:08:31 GMT
OOOOh... BACK shading, not black shading. Ok. Yes, I know about that. I was planning on doing something with the trouble colours (red, yellow, and sometimes white). Ok great, I'll add that in with intermediate I think...
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Post by suladan on Jun 23, 2006 20:09:01 GMT
maybe add assembling a multi part mini so that it doesnt break apart on the tabletop? that would be great for beginners, maybe have it as a prologue to priming?
just a thought
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Post by rlangner on Jun 23, 2006 20:10:53 GMT
Yep thats gonna be covered in my building/converting workshops and I'll be sure to mention something about it to the "students".
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Post by drevilmonki on Jun 24, 2006 3:41:06 GMT
For new you really should add mini preperation. Most peopel don't seem to understand mould lines can (and should) be removed or how to go about it.
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Post by demi on Jun 24, 2006 15:31:34 GMT
maybe add assembling a multi part mini so that it doesnt break apart on the tabletop? that's a great idea - drilling stuff and such especially important when playing with warmachine jacks (and SMM mounted orc ;D )
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Post by Tim C on Jun 24, 2006 15:38:44 GMT
maybe add assembling a multi part mini so that it doesnt break apart on the tabletop? that's a great idea - drilling stuff and such especially important when playing with warmachine jacks (and SMM mounted orc ;D ) I have yet to get the SMM Orc, but I hope I soon will, I take it from that statement it is a difficult one to put together.
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Post by rlangner on Jun 24, 2006 17:54:07 GMT
maybe add assembling a multi part mini so that it doesnt break apart on the tabletop? that's a great idea - drilling stuff and such especially important when playing with warmachine jacks (and SMM mounted orc ;D ) Yes pinning is really important with larger models (both metal and plastic) and I'll be sure to mention that to the people who come in. I don't think I need to worry much about for warmachine jacks though, it's a small town and I think the only miniatures you can get retail here are GW, and only where I work.
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Post by demi on Jun 25, 2006 6:26:45 GMT
I have yet to get the SMM Orc, but I hope I soon will, I take it from that statement it is a difficult one to put together. maybe not difficult bur it's still multi-part model, I generally don't risk falling big models apart so I drill all I can
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Post by airhead on Jun 25, 2006 18:23:46 GMT
I start out with a "why paint your minis" session: if they are only looking for a tabletop army or if they want a super painted character - it makes a difference.
I also start and finish each session with a bit on brush care. I start with the simple "how to clean a brush - twirl it agains the side, not stabbed on the bottom - and never leave it in the water." I loan W&N S5's (not my S7's) and we go through brush soap and clean and repoint at the end.
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Post by rlangner on Jun 26, 2006 0:05:41 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions airhead. I'll make sure to include that too. I'm also working on reference type sheets to give out after lessons so that the painters have something to take home with them so that they dont have to keep coming back to check the same technique/theory (once I make them up, I'll probably post them here, and maybe in the CMON articles section).
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Post by Tim C on Jun 26, 2006 2:17:11 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions airhead. I'll make sure to include that too. I'm also working on reference type sheets to give out after lessons so that the painters have something to take home with them so that they dont have to keep coming back to check the same technique/theory (once I make them up, I'll probably post them here, and maybe in the CMON articles section). The reference sheets sound like a good idea and would be of great benefit o our members and also members on other sites too. Very good idea I look forward to seeing that one come off.
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Post by jabberwocky on Jun 30, 2006 6:14:00 GMT
Looks like you have a great syllabus there! Other thoughts: 1. Gems 2. Varnishes 3. Other things to add to your thinning gunk besides water (flow aid, extender, etc.)
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Post by airhead on Jun 30, 2006 19:08:01 GMT
Sylibus: 1. Why are you painting minis? a. For relaxation. b. For tabletop game pieces. c. For competition. 2. Why take a class? a. To learn to paint, I am a beginner. b. To improve my painting, I already paint minis. 3. What do I need to paint minis? a. Xacto b. Zap-a-Gap c. Primer (Krylon, GW) d. Minis, (Reaper, GW, etc.) e. Paint, (Reaper, GW, Vallejo, etc.) f. Brushes i. #2 round ii. 000 round iii. ¼” flat g. Brush soap h. Clear Coat (Krylon, Armory, Testor’s DulCoat) i. Water 4. What else would I like to have? a. Inks b. Basing materials (sand, grass, cork) c. Pin drill or pin vice d. Green stuff e. Needle files f. Jeweler’s saw g. Dremel 5. What techniques do I use? a. Wash b. Drybrush c. Layering – dry blending d. Wet blending e. NMM (non-metallic metallic) f. SENMM (sky-earth non-metallic metallic) 6. How do I care for my brushes? a. Liquid brush cleaner (solvent) b. Brush soap & conditioner 7. What is Magic Wash? a. 1 oz flow aid b. 1 oz retarder c. 1 oz future floor finish d. 5 oz water, glazing medium, or airbrush medium. 8. Are there any web resources available? a. kbressman@earthlink.net b. www.reapermini.com (check out “The Craft” and the “Forums” c. www.coolminiornot.com (check “Articles” and “Forums”) d. www.jenova.dk/index.htm*** need to add this site to the list ***
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Post by jabberwocky on Jul 1, 2006 17:49:32 GMT
The Brushthralls also have an extensive tutorial section that is added to on a fairly regular basis.
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Post by rlangner on Jul 2, 2006 2:21:49 GMT
Thanks for the list Airhead. It'll definately help out with what I'm about to attempt. Lessons start monday and I'm hoping I have enough time to finish my reference sheets/syllabii before then. I have to work tomorow so I'm not sure how it'll all work out in the end.
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